DO NOT EVER HELP PEOPLE OUT!! Here is why....

[HKofsesshoumaru]

OMG! I had these 2 friends that are expecting a baby in July and they were homeless.:( My best friend couldn't have them living there cuz the land lord wouldn't allow it. I felt bad for the girl, so I took her and her fat ass boyfriend in for a 'few weeks'. 4 weeks later my bills have tripled and rent is slipping behind. So, I had a house meeting that fat ass needed to get a better job that payed more than $6.75 and hour (he works at a Harkin's). He refused claiming that he gets free movies and is happy with that. The prego don't work. She eats and sleeps. I put the heat on the two pushing him to get a 2nd job and her to get off her ass and find a job. All of our friends pitched in to help them find jobs. Yesterday they packed up and left, claiming how dare I ask them for more money, that they needed to save money..but fat ass came home with $500 worth of new cell phone gear the day before..hmmm..-_-;
SO I came up with a plan.;) I took all of what they had, the very little they had and put it outside. The weather here is great and I did not want them in the house. I burned whatever paper they had lying around (buss passes, newspaper ads etc..) and dumped the ashes on their shit, and made sure I hid all of fat ass's very imortant comic books deep enough that they would see the huge pile of ashes and think I burned the shit. I also snagged his FAVORITE BRAND NEW Ghostrider collection book thing he just loved so dearly and am holding it ransom. I smiled:happy: when I heard him call me up to tell me he got everything from my house today and left the keys with my neighbor...U have everything huh? My car is sitting in a shop after I drove it so damn much taking his ass around, so untill I see some money on the $2000.00 worth of bills due next month...Im keeping the ghost rider shit.
Do you think I went over the top on that one???^_^: I don't feel I did enough..gggggrrrrr. The lesson: DO NOT HELP PEOPLE! THEY JUST FUCK U OVER IN THE END!!!!:x

[Vincent]

sounds like something you need to take to small claims court or something....

[gokuDX7]

sounds like something you need to take to small claims court or something....

dont expect to get all that money in a timely manner let alone all that money at all.

Small claims sucks when it comes to stuff like this. I got into a car accident with a dumbass that didn't have car insurance, so I took him to small claims. I won and he has to pay me $4,000. For the past year and a half I get a $100 check from him a month. As you can see its money but not much to help me buy or fix my Jeep.


In your case If they claim bankruptcy its all over for you :/.

[falling-angel-111]

Givers should set limits, cause takers rarely do.... I think I actually read that off someones sig on this site. X'D

[Ladywriter]

I think all really generous ppl eventually run into slobs like the 2 yer talking about. I've taken that train ride a few times -_-; Eventually you'll learn not to feel sorry for ppl, you'll just laugh at their misfortune :meh:

I wouldn't count on getting any cash from them either. If you have enough proof (as in it wasn't just a verbal agreement about bills) take em to court. No proof, don't bother cuz it will be 2 against one.

[CabbitGirl]

hold the shit ransom and pretty much, you've learned your lesson with taking people in and such. next time you want to help someone, you have to ask if they really need the help or if theyre just helpless =/

[HKofsesshoumaru]

They are sooooo helpless! yeah, I admit I have slept on a couch before but I payed the bills that I create even after I left cuz I'm a good person like that.I'm holding whatever mail they got (and I didn't burn), and his Ghost Rider book ransom. I couldn't burn the comic book. I liked the artwork alot, and I think Iwould be doing Ghost Rider a huge injustice if I did so...

[Sledgstone]

generosity is almost always taken advantage of. -_- If they don't pay you anything you can at least keep that book and tell people its $2000 worth of collateral. :p

[HKofsesshoumaru]

hahahah great idea. I'll frame it. LOL.

[gokuDX7]

you burned their stuff? rofl good luck in court if you ever do decide to bring them there.

Judge: hentaikittyofsesshoumaru (http://forums.ancientclan.com/member.php?u=1402), it says here you want the so and so family to pay the sum of $bla bla
hentaikittyofsesshoumaru (http://forums.ancientclan.com/member.php?u=1402): yes
so and so family: He never asked us too and he also burned some of our expensive valuables.
Jude: Is that true?
hentaikittyofsesshoumaru (http://forums.ancientclan.com/member.php?u=1402): ya because they wouldn't pay the money they owed me!
Jude: if thats the case then I would like a quote from the so and so family on how much their belongings where worth along with how much they are making for income.
Jude: ok it says here their stuff is worth $1,000. We will be deducting that from the amount they are to pay you by blabla date.

:S lets hope they forget they left that stuff at your house or you where just kidding about burning the stuff. :P

[HKofsesshoumaru]

LOL. I only burned paper items. Like, their mail..stuff like that. I tossed some of the ashes on their clothes n shit. I kept and hid the 'Ghostrider' book thing. I have no idea what it is worth..I mean it has 6 chapters, it's a book with glossy pages and really cool art work. I'm sure I could get $20 if I was lucky. I might be able to get more on ebay. The spine on it is still good and it has never really been opened. Oh well. I don't really care. Karma is a bitch. I'm sure karma isn't happy with the whole stealing GhostRider thing...

I'm all girl..so it wouldn't be "he never asked us to pay.." Actually, I guess I would be a creepy weirdo head if I was a guy named Hentai Kitty.
Don't believe me? Here's my MySPACE page...http://www.myspace.com/kinkylittlelady69

HK

[Banana Attack]

LOL. I only burned paper items. Like, their mail..stuff like that. I tossed some of the ashes on their clothes n shit. I kept and hid the 'Ghostrider' book thing. I have no idea what it is worth..I mean it has 6 chapters, it's a book with glossy pages and really cool art work. I'm sure I could get $20 if I was lucky. I might be able to get more on ebay. The spine on it is still good and it has never really been opened. Oh well. I don't really care. Karma is a bitch. I'm sure karma isn't happy with the whole stealing GhostRider thing...

I'm all girl..so it wouldn't be "he never asked us to pay.." Actually, I guess I would be a creepy weirdo head if I was a guy named Hentai Kitty.
Don't believe me? Here's my MySPACE page...http://www.myspace.com/kinkylittlelady69

HK

I had sympathy for you until you burned their things. That was a terribly immature thing to do, and just because it was paper doesn't mean it wasn't worth anything. You burned their mail? What the f---.

edit: if the Ghost Rider book is about Rush it's only worth $20 - $30

[HKofsesshoumaru]

Well, as mature at that may seem...I guess I have to feel sorry for them I was informed from a mutual friend that the pregnant girl that lived with me and her B/f lost their baby. I know she was quite aways along because I saw pictures of her ultra sound. I did call them and left a message that I had hoped they were doing well, and I am THINKING of returning the Ghost Rider comic...MAYBE! They tripled all my bills when they were here. Everyone who knows them agree that they owe me moey for the bills they racked. Period. Burning their mail? Sure it may have been immature but, *shrugs* what's done is done. I can't change it now. I admit that was a bit over the top for me, but they could have been a bit cooler than packing up and running.

[Banana Attack]

Well, as mature at that may seem...I guess I ahev to feel sorry for them I was informed from a mutual friend that the pregnant girl that lied with me and her B/f lost their baby. I know she was quite aways along because I saw pictures of her ultra sound. I did call them and left a message that I had hoped they were doing well, and I am THINKING o feturning the Ghost Rider comic...MAYBE! They tripled all my bills when all I did was keep them off teh streets. Everyone who knows them agree that they owe me moey for teh bils they racked. Period. Burning their mail? Sure it may have been immature but, *shrugs* what's done is done. I can't change it now. I admit that was a bit over the top for me..I just hope that everything is well for the both of them

Seriously, just let it go. Give them their stuff back, and say you're sorry for burning their things. They've just lost a child and things probably haven't improved much money or living wise since they moved in with you. I think you should forget about such comparatively petty things and just let the loss in money be a lesson to you; I had to learn the same things, and that was to learn to say no and to be assertive. I'm sure you could have brought up the problems up earlier, and if you did you would have probably prevented the problem from becoming so much of a burden. Also, did you have some sort of agreement as to subleasing before they moved in? Surely you could have foreseen that with three times the adults, there would be three times as much utility usage, and triple the utility bills.

[HKofsesshoumaru]

Oh yeah, I figured as much. You know what ever. People in general will take advantage of people when they can. So, I guess it's a lesson learned. It's just not worth me getting p.o.ed over anymore. We all warned her that if she kept smoking 3 packs of Marlboro reds a day, she was putting her baby at risk. She didn't have any kind of health care, nor did she have the desire to go down and file for assistance. I feel bad for them, but at the same time she should and could have taken better care of herself.

[Mathias]

Everyone has been burned like this before. Maybe not as bad, but everyone has there experiences. The key to generosity is to know how much your willing to give and give no more.

In my case, I grew up very poor. There was a girl going to school with me that I thought was as poor. She "borrowed" a quarter here, a dime there, and so on. In the end, I was stick and bones from not getting enough nutrition and she became an athlete.

A few years back when I started earning some good dough, my company offered jean day Fridays once or twice a month for $3 a pop. I paid the money towards our Adopt a Family program. In December, they were doing jean day twice a week. Yeah, add the up! For Christmas, instead of giving the adopted family a few toys for the kids and many needed essentials, they were given primarily toys. I felt ripped, because I could have used that money to give GOOD gifts for my own family.

I vowed to stop donating good sums of cash to anyone except my church where I know where the money is spent, because we get an annual treasury report. Instead, I donate my time to helping others. This backfired a couple times, especially after picking a "friend" up several times from a bar and barely getting her to the hospital in time to save her life after not just one suicide attempt, but two!

Yeah, generosity can bite you in the ass as per the FEW examples I've given here. I help people out in only simple ways now. I donate blood. I donate money to my church. I help friends move. I'll go feed my coworkers cat, and so on.

The most important act that I and I know you perform, is to take care of my family. When you have little ones under your responsibility, you need to put your full effort into their care. Sure it's nice to help other people when you can, but not at the expense of you or your family.

[HKofsesshoumaru]

I think I finally given up on the whole thing. I mean it sucks for them and it sucks for me, but I am not really the type of person to hold grudges for very long. I had a realization that perhaps I should return the stupid comic book, since it was a gift from the guy's boss. It was some huge thing that when the movie came out, he had his eye on the comic book but could not afford it. So, his boss, (the actual big wig manager) really liked the work that dude did and got it for him. I know how much it meant to him, and I kept it after all the shit him and his Gf pulled. Whatever. I have been pulling all the over time I can, and granted I have missed time with my daughter (cutting my weekend down to one day, instead of both days) to catch up the rent. I'm finally seeing the end of this very long and dark tunnel. By end of next month both my rent, bills and my car loan will be more than caught up. This way I can enroll for school in the fall. I'm looking into Massage/Physical therapy school. With in a year, if not less, I will be able to move back up to where my daugher is, and have a well paying job. This has been the plan all along, and I guess I have now realized that the only way to reach these serious goals, are just to buck up and do it your damn self. NOt that I realied on other people to begin with, but I trusted that they would take care of what they said they would take care of. Oviously they never come through. I'm not having anymore roommates since I have no luck with them. LOL. I have tried to contact my friend who hopped a plane back to CO. but he never answers. I have a lot of his clothes, but I am getting to the point where I'm going to just give the stuff away. I have sent him emails in reguards to where he wanted the stuff shipped back to, but he hasn't responded to that either so... I don't know how long I am suppossed to hang on to stuff before I get rid of it?

[HKofsesshoumaru]

OK so here is a bit of an update. The couple got in touch with me last week and was very upset that the people they ditched me for really screwed them both over. They came to me with an apology and asked me to be there for the prego GF when the new baby came, since this is her first baby. I was more than happy to do this ( I was so honored!) and I gave back the Ghost Rider comic, because it was dumb of me to take it in the first place. We called it even, and I even slipped then $15 since they were hurting and needed bus fair. I feel I made amends with the whole thing, and they didn't deserve me being dumb to begin with . I can't wait for the baby. This kills my whole desire to have any more kids, for now. Being a mom is GREAT being an Aunt is going to be so much fun!

[Mathias]

I'm glad everything worked out in the end. :)