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Kuwabara
May 21st, 2005, 12:31 PM
Who loved Anickins ass whooping cause I sure Did.

I also enjoyed how MAce windu whoop Darth Sidious.

Dubird
May 21st, 2005, 01:42 PM
Please use spoiler title and spoiler tags. Thank you.

Godgrave
May 21st, 2005, 02:42 PM
The fights were superbly choreographed, yes.

DeathscytheX
May 21st, 2005, 06:37 PM
I still say Obi-wan, Qui-gon vs. Darth Maul is the best all time, Anikan vs. Obi-Wan is a close 2nd, followed by Yoda vs. Sidious, Mace vs. Papls, Yoda vs. Dooku. Anikan vs. Dooku.

The Grevous fight was kinda dissaponting.

Kuwabara
May 23rd, 2005, 10:13 AM
It was but All it did was prove Obi-wan was is the 3rd best jedi
#1 Yoda
#2 Mace windu
#3 Obi-Wan

DeathscytheX
May 23rd, 2005, 12:04 PM
I'm pretty sure Mace was the strongest of the Jedi.

Mace Windu was the head of the jedi counsil and on top of that he took out the emperor with ease. Yoda could not defeat the emperor. Yoda was more wise than Windu though.

Anikan was also stronger than Obi-Wan and possibly Yoda, he lost that fight because of his arrogance.

Godgrave
May 23rd, 2005, 01:04 PM
Arrogance leads to hate, hate leads to suffering ... leads to the dark side. In the end, it was this weakness of his that led to his fall.

Kuwabara
May 23rd, 2005, 01:55 PM
No Obi-Wan had him in all aspects i mean comon when anickin tried to use the force on him he stop him did he not and when they lost their beam sabers he head him did he not even in the original when he was old Vader went for the kill and he was quick enough to teleport did he not.

slippers
May 23rd, 2005, 05:43 PM
I still say Obi-wan, Qui-gon vs. Darth Maul is the best all time

i totally agree with that. that's what i was thinking after watching the movie.

The Grevous fight was kinda dissaponting.

have you seen cartoon grevious fighting? he took out almost 8 jedi single handedly. movie grevious was portraited as coward and weakling(although i didnt understand the part he was coughing like he had lung cancer).

i was kind of disappointed in obi vs anakin because lucas said it will be one of longest and intense fight scene ever between those two, but it didnt quite deliver for me. plus, dooku could beat obi-wan twice in short amount of time but i dont know how obi stood his ground against anakin.

DeathscytheX
May 23rd, 2005, 09:27 PM
No Obi-Wan had him in all aspects i mean comon when anickin tried to use the force on him he stop him did he not and when they lost their beam sabers he head him did he not even in the original when he was old Vader went for the kill and he was quick enough to teleport did he not.

Um no.. He died, He did not teleport. That was just the way of dieing in those movies, because dismemberment was to violent for that era. Obi-Wan was killed by Darth Vader. Yoda Died, he did not teleport.

Obi-wan Admitted to Anakin that he was more powerful than even himself Before Obi-wan left to hunt down grevous.. what are you thinking? Pure arrogance is what lost the fight for Ani. He was indeed more powerful. Just another thing to prove this is Obi-Wan got his ass kicked by Dooku... who killed Dooku and then Saved Obi-wan? Anakin did. Palps knew that Anakin was more powerful and eventually would be come the most powerful of all.

Lucas even stated before the film came out that Anakin was more powerful than Obi-wan, but inclines where his weakness was the hint. You cannot argue with the man who made the film.

Saosin
May 23rd, 2005, 09:34 PM
I was upset how not alot of the other Jedi got to fight. They were just kind of there.

I think Yoda could of easily taken Darth Sid. It was just that he's so small and Darth sid was being a coward and throwing those things at him. He just didn't want to be beat by a little green dude. And Mace totally whooped up on Darth Sid. Mace could of beaten anakin easily to.

DeathscytheX
May 23rd, 2005, 09:47 PM
thats why Im thinking he didnt make a Ani vs. Mace duel. Altho I think it would have made a better turn to the Darkside by beating the most powerful jedi.

The problem is that there would be no credibility for Obi-wan to beat him then.

Saosin
May 23rd, 2005, 10:16 PM
Thats quite true. Another thing. In Episode VI Luke beats Vader and if vader had beatn mace than he would be ultra strong and would of been able to over throw Darth Sidious in episode III quite easily. And Luke started his training at like 25 or something while Anakin started his at like 10 which was considered "to old". But on the other hadn I guess luke would be considered the prophecy since he restored order to the force. But, Vader could of been the Prophecy just read wrong.

DeathscytheX
May 23rd, 2005, 11:16 PM
It actually was vader that brough balance to the force by bringing the twins into the world. Remeber that Luke lost, If it wasnt for him convincing Vader to search his conflicted heart's feelings, Palps would have killed him. Vader Took out ole Palps in the end anyways. Funny since Sith kill there masters in the 1st place. Kind of a double wammy. Killed his master and destroyed the sith at the same time. heh.

Godgrave
May 24th, 2005, 10:30 AM
have you seen cartoon grevious fighting? he took out almost 8 jedi single handedly. movie grevious was portraited as coward and weakling(although i didnt understand the part he was coughing like he had lung cancer).

Ohh man, those fights were incredible ! ...
Actually, Darth Grievous was taken off-guard when he tried to escape with the Senator in the cartoon. If you remember, Windu guesses that it's a plot to capture/kidnap the Senator and orders a Trooper-ship to take him there. When he gets there, he sees the Senator enter the enemy spaceship and Grievous behind him, who looked shocked. Then Windu uses the force (pulls out his palm and closes his fist tight), and tries to crush Grievous's metallic body. But it wasn't enough, and Grievous survives - heavily injured on the contrary !

Helghast90
May 24th, 2005, 01:43 PM
Godgrave its not Darth Grievous its General Grievous only Sith lords Get first names with the word Darth. Id that Anakin vs. Obi-wan is the best ever!

next to obi-wan, qui-gon and Darth Maul.

Godgrave
May 24th, 2005, 02:00 PM
You're right ^_^, I dunno what I was thinking when I typed that - I was hungwwwwry.

Although I'm kinda surprised nobody mentioned the old school fights, like DarthVader vs Luke ...

Old School = slower saber movement, more intense, gave you the impression each blow was heavy.
Now = Faster, more dynamic with the battlers using the force a lot more often during battle.

On the other hand, check out this other battle ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/beds/bucks/herts/4575291.stm

slippers
May 24th, 2005, 03:19 PM
Actually, Darth Grievous was taken off-guard when he tried to escape with the Senator in the cartoon. If you remember, Windu guesses that it's a plot to capture/kidnap the Senator and orders a Trooper-ship to take him there. When he gets there, he sees the Senator enter the enemy spaceship and Grievous behind him, who looked shocked. Then Windu uses the force (pulls out his palm and closes his fist tight), and tries to crush Grievous's metallic body. But it wasn't enough, and Grievous survives - heavily injured on the contrary !

i only saw one episode of him fighting. thanks, i didnt know that. ^_^


Although I'm kinda surprised nobody mentioned the old school fights, like DarthVader vs Luke ...

Old School = slower saber movement, more intense, gave you the impression each blow was heavy.
Now = Faster, more dynamic with the battlers using the force a lot more often during battle.

that subject has been floating around the net for awhile. because of luke was half jedi and vader was half machine, they couldnt perform well like those in new ones. :p

On the other hand, check out this other battle ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/beds/bucks/herts/4575291.stm

:wtf:

Godgrave
May 24th, 2005, 03:28 PM
Those internet discussions could hold true, but in Return Of The Jedi, the fights were just like ESB and in that, Luke's a jedi alright.

Did anyone else notice - in Revenge Of The Sith, the time when Sidious fights Yoda in that conferance hall within that one podium, it looked like it was being run on fast-forward. It was uber fast 0_o

Dubird
May 24th, 2005, 10:52 PM
Luke isn't 'half-Jedi'....there's no such thing...you are either a Force-user or not....being as most Jedi don't get married or have kids, seeing as it's seen as something that can lead to the Dark Side *ahem*, most Force-users have parents that aren't Force sensitive....

slippers
May 24th, 2005, 11:49 PM
being force sensitive doesnt make a jedi either. it's a title and i realize it has nothing to do with birth right. what ppl meant by half jedi was because of his incomplete training and slow action between vader. yoda told him he wont be a jedi until he confronts his fear and face vader.

DeathscytheX
May 25th, 2005, 12:25 AM
There is no such thing as a half-jedi

Padawan
Jedi Knight
Master Jedi

no such thing as half-jedi. you're either a Jedi or your are not.

Ok so they fights werent as great. lets remember that these were the 1st movies ok.. Luke technically was a Jedi after he defeated Vader. Lucas didn't except to make the next few movies let alone any after the 1st. And there isnt really much a guy in a big costume and mask can do... the advanced computer editing was not there back then.

slippers
May 25th, 2005, 01:04 AM
good grief ppl..http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/cloud4cloud/doh.gif

Kuwabara
May 25th, 2005, 09:01 AM
The old fights were lacking. Like Luke vs Vader after watching thede new movies Lucas needs to remake the old ones.

Obi and Dooku was different he fought ani with a passion. Also mace windu would own Ani which i believe is soft.

DeathscytheX
May 25th, 2005, 01:39 PM
Obi and Dooku was different he fought ani with a passion. Also mace windu would own Ani which i believe is soft.

I actually thought about this some.

Dooku was Qui-Gon's master who trained Obi-Wan. So Dooku knew alot about Obi-wan and his moves, since he trained his master and it seems Qui-Gon talked so much about Obi-wan to Dooku.

Anakin however, although trained with Obi-wan was unorthadox in his ways. He was not a calm, good tempered Jedi, and he was very unpredictable. Dooku knew almost nothing about Anakin, whom also is a fast learner. So the second time around he was twice as powerful and already faced Dooku once. Obi-Wan however did not increase as much if at all in power.

Obi-wan had been with Anakin all his life, knew pretty much everything about him even his unpredicability. This is why he held his own against Skywaker in the final duel.

And yes Mace Windu would own anyone.

slippers
May 26th, 2005, 02:47 PM
my 2nd pick would be obi vs jango. bit short but i really thought it was great.

Godgrave
May 28th, 2005, 08:57 AM
Aahhhh which we can get a bit off from your signature, slippers ^_^. I loved it too ... I think there isn't one single Star Wars film with a good fight, be it light-saber or airplane.

Kuwabara
May 28th, 2005, 12:43 PM
Well said but after watching these new Starwars movies i still cant beleive Luke defeated Darth Vader it looked like Vader lost alot of skill cause i was watching it again and his fight with Obi in Episode 3 and with obi in the old one its like they both lost skill i know new age and stuff but they should remake the classics.

Clowtrigger
July 7th, 2005, 04:02 AM
I thought Luke has sons.